@spinmeister there's never anything you guys see that can be satisfying with the novus ordo, that's precisely why NOBODY listens to you guys when you talk your big "traditional ways" and your critical points on the matter on wayyyy more of the 90% of the catholic world, the novus ordo mass IS the mass and the Eucharist there is not false my dear @Ivan Tomas the Eucharist IS the Holy Flesh of God, there’s better ways to address the problems there, but heck, not even priests listens to your points, even less speaking like that... Anyways, I don’t know why I even reply when some of you are like walls, or like the men with stones ready to pounce the adulterous woman. Even that spinfraud guy comes, speaks his mind while having a block on me but whatever, not losing any sleep over it.
Why should I block you? It's pitty that you're defending a total disaster, novus ordo which is some new mass of Bugnini and Montini, which is as good as fruitless, especially for those for whom is it made,- for the people, not so much for God. It's a disaster comparing to the holy Mass Offer which is given us by Christ Lord and his Church, which have produced a great number of holy men and woman. You'd better stop to defend undefendable and start to live, fight and even die for the holy Mass which Deus vult.
I am telling this to you as a fellow Catholic to one of my brothers in Christ.
As I am telling exact the same to all others, even to priest and yes, even the bishops and kardinals, what you may or may not believe. That too, is up to you.
People are loosing their Faith because of novus ordo. On the other side, people become a saintly believers because of the Mass of all ages.
Lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.
It's really not difficult to understand that, my friend.
You must know this too. I am willing to lay my life down for you as for any other Catholic friend when and if necessary, Deo volente. How more should and must I be willing to do the same for someting what is most holy and is given to us for saving thousands of souls.
I wasn't speaking about you @Ivan Tomas when I wrote about the block, spinfraudster was the one writing with me being block from the start. It seems he is from Canada.
Women should not be standing in water up to their knees at Mass, but this is a NO Mass, so it isn't a Mass anyway.